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Post by blahpy on Sept 14, 2011 6:29:10 GMT -5
Take a look while you can
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Post by Torchickens on Sept 14, 2011 8:13:13 GMT -5
Take a look while you can I noticed! That was a bit surprising, although Missingno. has been 'featured' for quite a long time, so I suppose it would only be a matter of time for it to be featured article of the day. Sometimes, though (or is it my own bias) Wikipedia seems to be so obsessed with verifiability that it puts down the actual validity of some articles *remembers when the article said increases 'to' 128 instead of by 128*. It's a wonder the Minus World hasn't merited its own article yet, whilst something like Pokémon Apokélypse actually does. People could probably find just as many reliable sources for Minus World as with Missingno. if they tried, but then if they were all game-centric sources then it would probably be flagged as questionable notability.
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Post by blahpy on Sept 14, 2011 20:10:30 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember edit warring of that "to" "by" thing for several months... I'm glad it got fixed eventally, did that guy give up or did you do something? Because he wouldn't accept any other source from me so I stated it was "common knowledge"
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Post by Torchickens on Sept 15, 2011 16:37:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember edit warring of that "to" "by" thing for several months... I'm glad it got fixed eventally, did that guy give up or did you do something? Because he wouldn't accept any other source from me so I stated it was "common knowledge" That part of the article was sourcing a book called Pokemon Future: The Unauthorized Guide (pp. 184-188) as a reference. I can't find a preview of the book, so I'm not sure exactly what it said. (anyone have that book?) I changed the article to say 'by 128' instead of 'to 128', but now that you mention it, I don't understand why it didn't just get reverted again, if the book does say 'to 128' even though that's false, because Wikipedia favours verifiability 'over truth'. The irony is that now there will probably more 'reliable sources' by Wikipedia's standards that saw the updated Wikipedia revision and say 'by 128'. The 'verifiability not truth' policy can be a pain when it comes to video games. Personally I believe the only things you could really reliably trust are the games themselves (facts like Pallet Town is the starting town) and/otherwise the game developers. It's funny how some of the more obscure games on GameFAQs get the wrong genre. ( Whaa... this is a platformer not an RPG!) Recently, while more minor there was a similar scenario where on the Nintendo 3DS article it said that you need to hold Start and Select (quoting an incorrect source on the Nintendo website) rather than the correct Start or Select on the home menu to activate the GB border for GB/C VC games. I fixed the article by quoting the operations manual, which says Start or Select instead.
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Post by blahpy on Sept 15, 2011 22:24:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I remember edit warring of that "to" "by" thing for several months... I'm glad it got fixed eventally, did that guy give up or did you do something? Because he wouldn't accept any other source from me so I stated it was "common knowledge" That part of the article was sourcing a book called Pokemon Future: The Unauthorized Guide (pp. 184-188) as a reference. I can't find a preview of the book, so I'm not sure exactly what it said. (anyone have that book?) I changed the article to say 'by 128' instead of 'to 128', but now that you mention it, I don't understand why it didn't just get reverted again, if the book does say 'to 128' even though that's false, because Wikipedia favours verifiability 'over truth'. The irony is that now there will probably more 'reliable sources' by Wikipedia's standards that saw the updated Wikipedia revision and say 'by 128'. The 'verifiability not truth' policy can be a pain when it comes to video games. Personally I believe the only things you could really reliably trust are the games themselves (facts like Pallet Town is the starting town) and/otherwise the game developers. It's funny how some of the more obscure games on GameFAQs get the wrong genre. ( Whaa... this is a platformer not an RPG!) Recently, while more minor there was a similar scenario where on the Nintendo 3DS article it said that you need to hold Start and Select (quoting an incorrect source on the Nintendo website) rather than the correct Start or Select on the home menu to activate the GB border for GB/C VC games. I fixed the article by quoting the operations manual, which says Start or Select instead. Well I don't know why they didn't revert it, I changed it from "to" to "by" countless times and they continually changed it back... I even tried hiding it within other edits any they caught it I hate how they choose the first source they find over what is true though, it's ridiculous and makes Wikipedia itself an unreliable source...
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