6-Pokemon Decamarks abuse (R/S/FR/LG/E)

[vaeporsage]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nDwHEoqPhM

^ A video of me doing the glitch in Pokemon LeafGreen.

Anyway, this is quite a significant glitch in Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, LeafGreen, FireRed and Emerald Versions which results from use of the Pomeg glitch. It allows the player to view the status screens of Pokemon beyond the sixth slot in battle, without having to use any hacking devices. The status screens of some Pokemon can cause glitchy effects.

How to get a Pokemon with ?35 HP (this is necessary to perform the glitch):

1) In Pokemon Emerald, get a Pokemon that is around Lv.40 or more. Have around 10 HP Ups and a few Pomeg berries in your bag.

2) Use HP Ups on your Pokemon until its HP rises by 2 or more. Then, reduce that Pokemon's HP to 1 (1/138 etc.), and use a Pomeg berry. One of the best ways to reduce HP to 1 is to poison the Pokemon, and slowly lower its health outside of battle.


To do the glitch:

1) Have a Pokemon with ?35 HP in the first slot of your party. (If you are playing in R/S/FR/LG, this involves having such a Pokemon traded to your game.)

2) Have 4 fainted Pokemon/EGGs in your party.

3) Have another Pokemon in the last slot of your party that you can switch into.

4) Enter a battle and switch the Pokemon with ?35 HP with your other Pokemon, then exit the battle.

5) Put the Pokemon you switched into in the PC, and then use a Potion-type item to 'heal' your ?35 HP Pokemon to 0 HP. (This cannot be done in Ruby & Sapphire, so you will need to use a HP Up in a certain way to do this instead in those games.)

6) Enter a battle, and look at the status screen of one of your fainted Pokemon, then exit it. Scroll down until the 'cancel' button is fully lit, then scroll up. You will be able to scroll through an inventory of a whole bunch of glitch Pokemon.


If you scroll up really far, eventually the game either crashes or resets. I counted, and it's about 150 places up that this happens.

The glitch was discovered by a member of the Hall of Origin forums called Voltage. One thing he/she also found was that the summary screen of the first glitch Pokemon in the list causes the sprite of a wild Pokemon to turn into a discoloured Decamarks, and throwing a Poké Ball causes the result of the thrown ball (Aargh! Almost had it! etc.) to be shown before the ball shakes.

When you try to switch into any of these Pokemon in FR/LG/E, you cannot, because they have 0/0 HP, or are EGGs. I have a feeling that this may not necessarily be the case in R/S, however; data beyond the sixth slot in those games seems to be more randomised. There could be plenty of Pokemon that are not fainted and that you are able to switch into. I can't test this at the moment, because my Sapphire is lost and I lent my Ruby to a friend who hasn't given it back yet.

[Tsukuu~]

Awesome. Looks like I won't need GS or hacking tool to access the "secret party" anymore. I might try that later. Pomeg Glitch is epic. =D

EDIT: Oh, just forgot something. Can the "secret party" be accessed outta battle?

[Torchickens]

Is there anything important which happens when you view the summary screen of a Pokémon, like some kind of flag checked or something? I've always been baffled why simply just viewing things and not changing them can cause extra side effects to the game.

The Pokémon data structure in Generation III is 100-bytes and is apparently like this:

If we know the personality- sp.defense addresses of the sixth Pokémon we'll probably be getting somewhere, because we could track it down to the 7th Pokémon's data and 8th Pokémon data etc. and see what data it conflicts with.

[vaeporsage]

@tsukuu~

You can't do the glitch outside of battle, because the extra Decamarks Pokemon which becomes the sixth Pokemon in your party only exists there during battle.

Torchickens

Clearly, the data of the seventh Pokemon conflicts with the opponent's sprite, but of course I wouldn't know anything else about it. I'm going to mess around with the eighth Pokemon today and hope that it does something crazy too.

Also, to be clear, I'm doing this in Pokemon Emerald at the moment.

[Tsukuu~]

Ah. But anyway, it's a legit way to see YOP's summary.

[vaeporsage]

Yeah, although it has its normal typing and ability (so whether it is a Gengar or Azurill YOP is not taken into account because it hasn't been sent out).

By the way, how did you get 233 karma points? 0_0

[Tsukuu~]

...awesomeness? :3

Btw, how did we born in exact same day?

[blahpy]

Jun 27, 2011 12:09:46 GMT -5 vaeporsage said:

Yeah, although it has its normal typing and ability (so whether it is a Gengar or Azurill YOP is not taken into account because it hasn't been sent out).

By the way, how did you get 233 karma points? 0_0

And wow at the same birthdays Must be an awesome day

[Tsukuu~]

Lolyep. But this is getting off-topic. xD

[GARY 'M 9]

Jun 28, 2011 22:47:23 GMT -5 blahpy said:

Jun 27, 2011 12:09:46 GMT -5 vaeporsage said:

Yeah, although it has its normal typing and ability (so whether it is a Gengar or Azurill YOP is not taken into account because it hasn't been sent out).

By the way, how did you get 233 karma points? 0_0

And wow at the same birthdays Must be an awesome day

Please try to reduce your smiley count per post to 3. This was part of the GCLF rules which are followed here, but since the maintenance has lasted so long, newer members have shown up that are familiar with these and I should get a wayback archive of the rules and post in the rules thread... I wasn't expecting maintenance to last this long or I would have done so (and neither was Malacoda.) This isn't a warning per-se, it's an informative statement.

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[vaeporsage]

I was away on holidays for two weeks, and I was unfortunately unable to keep up with this discussion while I was gone.

I'm reasonably confident that this glitch may be of some note, because the seventh Pokemon's summary screen is known to cause glitches just from viewing it, and the ~150th Pokemon freezes the game just by scrolling onto it in the party. If doing these things can cause effects, then surely even a handful of the glitch Pokemon available could do something useful. That's just my reasoning, but for me, there's certainly no harm in trying this glitch out to see what it might yield.

The seventh Pokemon (at least in Emerald, which is where I've been testing exclusively) manifests itself in the Poke Ball icon of the Pokemon in the second slot (it's very hard to explain that, although you'd probably understand if you were to do it yourself). The summary of the eighth Pokemon (the one after the Pokemon that causes the graphical problem with the opponent's sprite; the seventh) doesn't seem to do anything.

Pokemon around the #110 mark seem to have pretty stable summaries for some reason; I think I tried 110, 111, 114 and 116 once each and none of them froze the screen.

I'm hoping to have my Ruby Version back at some point during the week, so I may be able to test the glitch in that game. Also, does anyone have any ideas as to what to name the glitch? I like " the Hidden Team trick".