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Post by Torchickens on May 3, 2011 13:10:15 GMT -5
These RAM values are for Gold/Silver, (U). If we can find a definite way to replicate the trainer house glitch and corrupt the mailbox somehow (via a certain glitch dimension?), we can use these to see which RAM values were corrupted.
We can also use it to understand what's happening if we modify Mail which we normally can't (i.e. located past the highest number of Mail). If we get say 255 Mail items (although in this case 255 freezes the game if you view the mailbox). The high mail 'slots' conflict with other RAM bytes.
e.g. in Red/Blue, the 21st item quantity in the bag (which doesn't exist unless you literally explode the inventory via gia's save glitch for instance by getting 255 party Pokémon in the party and then swapping the first Pokémon with the tenth to also receive 255 items) is actually money byte 1. So if you toss the item quantity of item #21 in R/B, you literally lose money!
[WIP]
Normal box mail data ranges from A834 to AA0A (10 Mail).
A834 = how many mail items in the PC
First mail:
A835 = first character
A836 = second character
A837 = third character
A838 = fourth character
A839 = fifth character
A83A = sixth character
A83B = seventh character
A83C = eighth character
A83D = ninth character
A83E = tenth character
A83F = eleventh character
A840 = twelfth character
A841 = thirteenth character
A842 = fourteenth character
A843 = fifteenth character
A844 = sixteenth character
A845 = seventeenth character
A846 = eighteenth character
A847 = nineteenth character
A848 = twentieth character
A849 = twenty-first character
A84A = twenty-second character
A84B = twenty-third character
A84C = twenty-fourth character
A84D = twenty-fifth character
A84E = twenty-sixth character
A84F = twenty-seventh character
A850 = twenty-eighth character
A851 = twenty-ninth character
A852 = thirtieth character
A853 = thirty-first character
A854 = thirty-second character
A855 = thirty-third character
A856 = author of first mail (first character)
A857 = author of first mail (second character)
A858 = author of first mail (third character)
A859 = author of first mail (fourth character)
A85A = author of first mail (fifth character)
A85B = author of first mail (sixth character)
A85C = author of first mail (seventh character)
A85D = author of first mail (eighth character)
A85E = author of first mail (ninth character)
A85F = author of first mail (tenth character)
A860 = author of first mail (end character)
A861 = ?
A862 = Pokémon shown in portrait mail
A863 = type of mail (item id). 'Purple oddish mail' for invalid ids.
A864 = ?
Second mail:
A865 = first character of second mail
What I find interesting about corrupted mail, if you do experience the Trainer House glitch/corrupted mail glitch, is that the game is actually grabbing strings of text from somewhere, e.g. 'G|R|E|E|N|'.
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Post by Pete on May 4, 2011 16:48:24 GMT -5
I figured this is the right place to post this, as I haven't found anyone who can help me yet.
This is in my Pokemon Gold game.
I somehow got a Mail glitch before I even entered Kanto! I have no idea when it happened or under what circumstances (I have never used any cheating, memory-corrupting, or hacking device), but here is the gist of it:
1. I have Mail attached to my level 20 Rattata..
2. The Mail Glitch causes glitch mail to appear in my mailbox.
3. This glitch also causes the game to list the mailbox as full at all times...even when I delete messages.
4. Whenever I try to deposit Rattata in a box, it says, "Remove Mail."
5. When I attempt to send the Mail to the mailbox, I am told that it is full.
6. So basically I'm stuck with a level 20 Rattata forever.
It is also worthwhile to note that the mail messages will change according to the time and place in the game. One message behaves very erratically: sometimes it will display glitchy text, other times it will cause the game to restart in the Glitch Dimension! (The latter event has not happened in a long while.)
I am, however, still able to send Mail to my Pack,and sell it for $1500 per piece. However, this will not decrease the total amount of Mail messages that I have, and the game displays the mailbox as full even after I do this.
Help!
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Post by Paco81 on May 6, 2011 4:39:46 GMT -5
These RAM values are for Gold/Silver, (U). If we can find a definite way to replicate the trainer house glitch and corrupt the mailbox somehow (via a certain glitch dimension?), we can use these to see which RAM values were corrupted. Hi Torchickens. I know a method to replicate the Trainer House Glitch and corrupt the Mailbox in Gold&Silver. - We need have a 000 in the first party position and 5 any Pokémon. - Using Move option move a Pokémon to the party. - In this moment we have 7 Pokémon in the party, whitdraw 4 or more Pokémon and then the Unowndex (or Unown in the Pokédex) is affect.   - When we have 11 or more Pokémon in the party, check the Unowndex (or Unown in the Pokédex) and the game freezes or ocurred a Glitch Dimension. When we resetart, the game will return to the normality in the last save point (when we move the 7th party Pokémon). In this moment the Unowndex is not affected and we can replicate the Trainer House Glitch, corrupt the Mailbox, get decoration to our room and get a strange Mystery Gift without danger for the save file.   |
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Post by Torchickens on May 6, 2011 18:31:33 GMT -5
Hi Paco. Wow, that's great. Thank you so much for all your hard work! This is inspiring. Perhaps a certain glitch Unown may trigger a glitch dimension which could make an NPC appear who gives you a Teru-Sama that has an equivalent identifier of the GS Ball in Pokémon Crystal? Is it also possible to add a seventh Pokémon into the party with ????? (00) in Pokémon Crystal, or is only Missingning possible? I am rather naïve with Pokémon Crystal, as I have never played the game. This glitch could be helpful for people who want to obtain Celebi without using potentially risky methods which involve turning the power off while saving, assuming that it is possible to obtain a ????? (00) without turning the power off too early. Is that possible? I wonder if there is a method of avoiding the 'this Pokémon is abnormal message', but I do not understand exactly what causes it. I was considering the possibility of linking between Red/Blue/Yellow and Gold/Silver/Crystal using an 'M or 3TrainerPoké (00) which has turned into an unstable hybrid of a transferable Generation I Pokémon via the Q glitch? but then I remembered about that message. Do you know which glitch Unown and subsequent glitch dimension, gave you a HM12? I'm trying to see if we can find a way how we can work it out, with reference to our archived list of Gameshark codes replay.web.archive.org/20080822103628/http://glitchcity.info/docs/gameshark/pokemongscodes.txtAs of a slightly unrelated note, I've noticed, when experimenting with Gameshark that having HM12 attached to a Pokémon in Red/Blue (a held item in Generation I is determined by a byte which is given the same value of the Pokémon's catch rate when you capture it) can have unusual effects on its portrayed stats, moves and HP in Pokémon Gold and Silver but this will always trigger the 'this Pokémon appears to be abnormal' message, if you then attempted to trade it unless I'm mistaken. Edit:I had a look what the Pokémon moves grab their data from, as this is a nice easy variable for us to change. Target address(es): DC24-DC3D - Unown form shown in the UnownDex Pokémon moves, hex offsets between move of each Pokémon +30 Sixth Pokémon Skill 1 DB1C Skill 2 DB1D Skill 3 DB1E Skill 4 DB1F Seventh Pokémon Skill 1 DB4C (OT character 3 Pokémon 1) Skill 2 DB4D (OT character 4 Pokémon 1) Skill 3 DB4E (OT character 5 Pokémon 1) Skill 4 DB4F (OT character 6 Pokémon 1) Eighth Pokémon Skill 1 DB7C (OT character 7 Pokémon 5) Skill 2 DB7D (OT character 8 [END] Pokémon 5) Skill 3 DB7E (?) Skill 4 DB7F (?) Ninth Pokémon Skill 1 DBAC (Nickname character 11 [END] Pokémon 3) Skill 2 DBAD (Nickname character 1 Pokémon 4) Skill 3 DBAE (Nickname character 2 Pokémon 4) Skill 4 DBAF (Nickname character 3 Pokémon 4) Tenth Pokémon Skill 1 DBDC (?) Skill 2 DBDD (?) Skill 3 DBDE (?) Skill 4 DBDF (?) Eleventh Pokémon Skill 1 DC0C (Pokémon seen/own, byte 41) Skill 2 DC0D (Pokémon seen/own, byte 42) Skill 3 DC0E (Pokémon seen/own, byte 43) Skill 4 DC0F (Pokémon seen/own, byte 44) Twelfth Pokémon Skill 1 DC3C (UnownDex entry 25) Skill 2 DC3D (UnownDex entry 26) Skill 3 DC3E (Amount of Unown puzzles finished [2^4 = all] ) Skill 4 DC3F (Default Unown shown in the Pokédex) Theoretically, if we wanted the 'Ilsty and ?' event, triggered by glitch Unown #28 (hex:1C) for example, we can modify entry 25 by withdrawing a twelfth Pokémon knowing the move Sand-Attack. GARY 'M 9 and Yuzihax finished the UnownDex project for English Pokémon Gold/Silver and Crystal on GCL forums before it went down. I think I still have the finished projects downloaded. Now it would be a good idea to list the glitch dimension inducing Unowns here. Edit2: I think I've found that Unown #1 is determined by the remaining PP of move #4 of Pokémon 11. This conflicts with DC24. |
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Post by GARY 'M 9 on May 8, 2011 14:41:23 GMT -5
G/S Glitch Dimension Unowns:
1E, 22, 35, 38, 3C, 41, 46, 48, 49, 4C, 55, 61(requires you to mess with the start menu and pokedex), 70, 78, 79, 7D, 7F, 83, 8E (after exiting start menu), 91 after unstoppable evolutions, 92, 96, A2, AC, AD, B0, B3, B8, B9, BA, BC, C0, C7, D2, D4, D5, D6 while scrolling up after exiting picture, D8 (hit B), D9 (follow D6 instructions), DF, E7, E9, EB, EC, F1, F2, F4, F6, F9, FE
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Post by Torchickens on May 8, 2011 15:27:05 GMT -5
G/S Glitch Dimension Unowns: 1E, 22, 35, 38, 3C, 41, 46, 48, 49, 4C, 55, 61(requires you to mess with the start menu and pokedex), 70, 78, 79, 7D, 7F, 83, 8E (after exiting start menu), 91 after unstoppable evolutions, 92, 96, A2, AC, AD, B0, B3, B8, B9, BA, BC, C0, C7, D2, D4, D5, D6 while scrolling up after exiting picture, D8 (hit B), D9 (follow D6 instructions), DF, E7, E9, EB, EC, F1, F2, F4, F6, F9, FE Thanks! So, it looks like certain glitch dimension Unown give you a Mystery Gift on the second floor of a Pokémon Center... The game partially saves some data in a similar way to when you encounter Missingno. via the Old Man Trick in Red/Blue but instead of the Hall of Fame, these glitch dimensions corrupt your mailbox, Trainer House, etc. No 0x73 Teru-Sama yet though. * means it wouldn't glitch dimension for some reason (emulation error?) 1E: Mystery Gift = Poké Doll 22: Mystery Gift = Exp. Share 35: Mystery Gift = (None) 38: * 3C: Mystery Gift = TM10 41: Mystery Gift = Master Ball 46: * 48: Mystery Gift = Master Ball 49: Mystery Gift = (None) 4C: * 55: Mystery Gift = (None) 61: Removed UnownDex and gave me this weird Pokédex. The game froze when exiting and trying to view the Pokédex again.  70: Mystery Gift = TM19 78: Mystery Gift = (None) 79: Mystery Gift = (None) 7D: Mystery Gift = Energypowder 7F: Mystery Gift = (None) 83: Mystery Gift = TM03 8E: Mystery Gift = TM12 91: * 92: * 96: Mystery Gift = (None) A2: Mystery Gift = (None) AC: Corrupted the Pokédex and created a glitch city like Paco81 encountered with ????? (00) in Crystal. Can walk out to cause a glitch dimension, but doesn't give a Mystery Gift item. AD: ^ Above, but harder to navigate. Viewing the Pokédex again gives a glitch dimension, but no Mystery Gift item. B0: Mystery Gift = HM08 (glitch item) B3: Mystery Gift = (None) B8: Mystery Gift = TM03 B9: Mystery Gift = (None) BA: * BC: Mystery Gift = (None) C0: Mystery Gift = Metal Powder C7: * D2: Like AC and AD, couldn't get a Mystery Gift item. D4: Mystery Gift = (None) D5: Mystery Gift = (None) D6: See AC, AD, D2. D8: D9: DF: |
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Post by GARY 'M 9 on May 8, 2011 21:29:28 GMT -5
The * Unowns give some erratic effects sometimes and may vary on location (I only tested these in Ruins of Alph) Try exiting and reopening start menus/start menu options. Also, ones that crash will occasionally pop-up glitch dimensions, albeit rarely.
Edit: If Glitch Unowns cause glitch dimensions that cause mystery gifts, what about certain Coin Case glitch dimensions?
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Post by Paco81 on May 15, 2011 7:23:42 GMT -5
Is it also possible to add a seventh Pokémon into the party with  ?? (00) in Pokémon Crystal, or is only Missingning possible? I am rather naïve with Pokémon Crystal, as I have never played the game. In Crystal version also is possible add a seventh Pokémon into the party with ?? (00) and affect the UnonwDex too, but is not possible get strange Mystery Gifts and corrupt the MailBox in this way. This glitch could be helpful for people who want to obtain Celebi without using potentially risky methods which involve turning the power off while saving, assuming that it is possible to obtain a ?? (00) without turning the power off too early. Is that possible? I wonder if there is a method of avoiding the 'this Pokémon is abnormal message', but I do not understand exactly what causes it. I was considering the possibility of linking between Red/Blue/Yellow and Gold/Silver/Crystal using an 'M or 3TrainerPoké (00) which has turned into an unstable hybrid of a transferable Generation I Pokémon via the Q glitch? but then I remembered about that message. Currently I not know a method to get a 000 in G/S/C without use the Cloning Trick, althought I think in Gold&Silver there is no risk using use the cloning trick. I not know what causes the "Your friend´s Pokémon appears to be abnormal" message, perhaps some byte combination in the internal Pokémon structure cause that message. In Bulbapedia say "Rarely times is possible trade a ´M or Missingno to G/S/C", then probably exist a way to do it. I will try find a method to trade a ´M/Missingno or unstable hybrid to G/S/C, because if this works, there is probably a different way to get to Celebi in G/S/C. Do you know which glitch Unown and subsequent glitch dimension, gave you a HM12? I'm trying to see if we can find a way how we can work it out, with reference to our archived list of Gameshark codes replay.web.archive.org/20080822103628/http://glitchcity.info/docs/gameshark/pokemongscodes.txtAs of a slightly unrelated note, I've noticed, when experimenting with Gameshark that having HM12 attached to a Pokémon in Red/Blue (a held item in Generation I is determined by a byte which is given the same value of the Pokémon's catch rate when you capture it) can have unusual effects on its portrayed stats, moves and HP in Pokémon Gold and Silver but this will always trigger the 'this Pokémon appears to be abnormal' message, if you then attempted to trade it unless I'm mistaken. This sound like interesting. The glitch Unown #80 (Hex:50) give a HM12, to get a HM12 without gameshark is necessary go to DC3F (Default Unown shown in the Pokédex), to do this we need have 12 Pokémon in the party and the Twelfth Pokémon must know Petal Dance move in Skill 4. I made a video about it. www.megaupload.com/?d=D85S19HTTheoretically, if we wanted the 'Ilsty and ?' event, triggered by glitch Unown #28 (hex:1C) for example, we can modify entry 25 by withdrawing a twelfth Pokémon knowing the move Sand-Attack. Edit2: I think I've found that Unown #1 is determined by the remaining PP of move #4 of Pokémon 11. This conflicts with DC24. Unfortunately 'Ilsty and ?' event only occurs cheking to 1C glitch Unown in the UnownDex entry 1 but not occurs cheking to 1C glitch Unown in the PokéDex or UnownDex entry 2~26, then is unlikely see the 'Ilsty and ?' event without gameshark because the game restore all the PP´s when a Pokémon is deposited in PC Bill and there is not a Pokémon move with exactly 28 PP (1C). If Glitch Unowns cause glitch dimensions that cause mystery gifts, what about certain Coin Case glitch dimensions? Apparently nothing happens. it looks like certain glitch dimension Unown give you a Mystery Gift on the second floor of a Pokémon Center... Not only certain glitch dimension Unown give you a Mystery Gift on the second floor of a Pokémon Center, freezes game glitch Unown and somes not freezes game glitch Unown too. I'll start the list again: Glitch Unown / Mystery Gift. 1B: (None) 1C: TM03 1D: TM09 1E: POKÉ DOLL 1F: LURE BALL 20: (None) 21: (None) 22: EXP.SHARE 23: TM10 24: SQUIRTBOTTLE 25: (None) 26: TERU-SAMA 27: (None) 28: (None) 29: REVIVAL HERB 2A: (None) 2B: (None) 2C: (None) 2D: (None) 2E: (None) 2F: (None) 30: (None) 31: TM15 32: (None) 33: (None) 34: (None) 35: (None) 36: (None) 37: (None) 38: ICE BERRY 39: TM48 3A: SCOPE LENS 3B: (None) 3C: TM10 3D: (None) 3E: (None) 3F: (None) 40: (None) 41: MASTER BALL 42: (None) 43: X SPEED 44: (None) 45: (None) 46: REPEL 47: BRIGHTPOWDER 48: MASTER BALL 49: (None) 4A: TM18 4B: TM03 4C: X ACCURACY 4D: TM32 4E: LEFTOVERS 4F: DIRE HIT 50: HM12 51: (None) 52: REVIVAL HERB 53: (None) 54: MOON STONE 55: EXP.SHARE 56: (None) 57: (None) 58: MASTER BALL 59: (None) 5A: SUPER POTION 5B: (None) 5C: (None) 5D: POKÉ BALL 5E: (None) 5F: (None) 60: PP UP 61: (None) 62: (None) 63: (None) 64: (None) 65: TERU-SAMA 66: MASTER BALL 67: (None) 68: (None) 69: TM10 6A: (None) 6B: SUPER ROD 6C: (None) 6D: (None) 6E: (None) 6F: (None) 70: TM19 71: (None) 72: (None) 73: TM26 74: (None) 75: (None) 76: (None) 77: (None) 78: (None) 79: (None) 7A: (None) 7B: (None) 7C: (None) 7D: ENERGYPOWDER 7E: (None) 7F: (None) 80: (None) 81: (None) 82: (None) 83: TM03 84: TM42 85: (None) 86: MASTER BALL 87: (None) 88: (None) 89: (None) 8A: (None) 8B: (None) 8C: (None)  : (None) 8E: TM12 8F: (None) 90: (None) 91: TM20 92: (None) 93: (None) 94: TM14 95: (None) 96: (None) 97: TM27 98: (None) 99: POTION 9A: (None) 9B: (None) 9C: (None) 9D: (None) 9E: (None) 9F: (None) A0: (None) A1: REVIVAL HERB A2: (None) A3: (None) A4: (None) A5: (None) A6: (None) A7: (None) A8: (None) A9: (None) AA: (None) AB: (None) AC: (None) AD: (None) AE: (None) AF: (None) B0: HM08 B1: (None) B2: MASTER BALL B3: (None) B4: (None) B5: SUPER ROD B6: (None) B7: (None) B8: TM03 B9: (None) BA: (None) BB: (None) BC: (None) BD: (None) BE: (None) BF: FRESH WATER C0: METAL POWDER C1: PP UP - EXP.SHARE - TERU-SAMA Apparently the Glitch Mystery Gift change depending the place where we check the UnownDex. C2: (None) C3: (None) C4: (None) C5: (None) C6: (None) C7: (None) C8: (None) C9: PP UP - TM48 - See C1 CA: TM32 CB: (None) CC: TM45 CD: TM42 CE: (None) CF: TM04 D0: TERU-SAMA D1: (None) D2: (None) D3: MASTER BALL D4: (None) D5: (None) D6: (None) D7: (None) D8: (None) D9: (None) DA: (None) DB: (None) DC: (None) DD: (None) DE: (None) DF: MASTER BALL E0: (None) E1: (None) E2: (None) E3: TM15 E4: TM10 E5: TM18 E6: (None) E7: HM12 E8: (None) E9: (None) EA: (None) EB: (None) EC: (None) ED: NUGGET - SUPER ROD - TERU-SAMA See C1 EE: (None) EF: (None) F0: (None) F1: ANTIDOTE F2: TM14 F3: TM03 F4: (None) F5: (None) F6: (None) F7: HM08 F8: (None) F9: TM14 FA: (None) FB: (None) FC: (None) FD: (None) FE: (None) FF: (None) |
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Post by Paco81 on May 22, 2011 6:54:32 GMT -5
I finished the glitch Mystery Gift list in the previous post. Also I have a request and a question...
Someone could check in your Gold/Silver save file if also 1E glitch Unown causes appears the lv79 Forretress, lv33 Seel, lv205 Moltres in the Trainer House?
Why in the Mail Box when you put a glitch Mail in the pack is turned into another Item?
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Post by Torchickens on May 22, 2011 9:16:25 GMT -5
I finished the glitch Mystery Gift list in the previous post. Also I have a request and a qufestion... Someone could check in your Gold/Silver save file if also 1E glitch Unown causes appears the lv79 Forretress, lv33 Seel, lv205 Moltres in the Trainer House? I will try this with one of the later VisualBoyAdvance versions (VBA 1.7.2 v19.3) because when I was testing Japanese version select button glitches in Red/Green the dokokashira door glitch and fossil conversion glitch worked on that but not on earlier versions. I finished the glitch Mystery Gift list in the previous post. Also I have a request and a question... Why in the Mail Box when you put a glitch Mail in the pack is turned into another Item? This depends on the Mail print, because the Mail print used depends directly on the item identifier. It is like an ordinary item pack, but you can't see the item names. For example, if we consider a glitch Mail which uses this print:  We can tell that it will turn into a Surf Mail (0xB5) when we withdraw it into the item pack. However, if the item identifier is not used for any valid Mail (00: ? -FE: HM12) and not including B5-BD, which are valid Mail identifiers, it will (always?) turn out like this:  For example, if we have a Bicycle (0x06) in the Mail Box, it should use the Mail print above. Theoretically, if you put any ordinary (non-Mail) item in the Mailbox by cheating, it would use that print. Unfortunately, for this reason, it doesn't look like we can tell what any invalid item will be by its Mail print alone, except that it wouldn't be withdrawn as a Mail item if it did use the 'purple Oddish print'.  I found one exception however with (FF: Cancel), which looks like this, so if you withdraw it you get no item (Cancel):  ^ Not a game freeze, but a blank screen which you can exit. |
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Post by Glitchaholic on May 22, 2011 21:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by GARY 'M 9 on May 23, 2011 14:47:54 GMT -5
... Do I have to ban you again? |
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Post by glisp on Aug 11, 2011 15:24:05 GMT -5
I have something to add: There's a ton more trainers out there. However, these trainers you encounter cannot be found by glitch Unowns. I had this one happen. First time I reached Viridian Trainer house, I fought a trainer named PKMN Trainer [Blank] and he had two pokemon: A level 0 Venonat and Level 127 Pincer. My mail also corrupted before reaching Kanto. It may have been connected to a corrupted link battle I had with my cousin once as I recieved a large portion of the bad stuff. Including pokemon with HP bars stretching offscreen. After this, my mailbox was full.
Already been mentioned but you can rescramble the trainer you face sometimes by looking at different glitch mail in your PC.
Sort of off subject but similar:
I should note that I had a problem with bad eggs once in my now dead Leafgreen. Why I'm bringing this up is because the bad eggs and ??????????? behaving like bad eggs causes a huge problem with my mailbox. Looking at it would freeze the game.
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Post by GARY 'M 9 on Sept 5, 2011 12:52:55 GMT -5
Unfortunately 'Ilsty and ?' event only occurs cheking to 1C glitch Unown in the UnownDex entry 1 but not occurs cheking to 1C glitch Unown in the PokéDex or UnownDex entry 2~26, then is unlikely see the 'Ilsty and ?' event without gameshark because the game restore all the PP´s when a Pokémon is deposited in PC Bill and there is not a Pokémon move with exactly 28 PP (1C). PP Ups or trading/Johto Guard Glitch from Gen I? |
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?? (00) in Pokémon Crystal, or is only Missingning possible? I am rather naïve with Pokémon Crystal, as I have never played the game.
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