Celebi trick

[SnorlaxMonster]

The glitch I am referring to is the one demonstrated in the video below. The uploader credits Paco as the discoverer.



I was watching this video, and made several observations. For one, I noticed that every Pokémon deposited caused the bytes to shift up one, based on Bulbapedia's Pokémon data structure in Generation II.

What I was wondering if it was necessary to shift the bytes up four times by depositing four Pokémon. Would it not be possible to put the move to become the Pokémon's species in the first slot, and simply shift the bytes two times?

Secondly, I noticed that the moves Outrage, Acid Armor, Karate Chop and Belly Drum appeared on the final Celebi. Based on the data structure, these moves should come from the OT, which loses a character with every shift. But these have the (decimal) index numbers 200, 151, 2, and 187 - gaps which I cannot attribute to the shifted "Bobb". It is possible that characters in GSC are not ordered in any logical order, but that theory is messed up by the fact that there are two consecutive "b"s, which seemingly result in two separate moves. Does anyone have a list of characters by index number for GSC? None of the moves' indexes correspond to the index of any legal character in Gen I.

Also, is there another name for the glitch, which is more broad than "Celebi"? It's the same thing that bothers me about calling the Trainer-Fly glitch the "Mew" glitch.

[Torchickens]

Jul 24, 2011 10:23:38 GMT -5 SnorlaxMonster said:

Does anyone have a list of characters by index number for GSC? None of the moves' indexes correspond to the index of any legal character in Gen I.

The characters by index number in RBY are the same as the ones in GSC. For reference, I'll link to the old Matthew Robinson's code archive, which our own codes archive credited. (see 'Name Digits' section). www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/pokemongscodes.txt

Jul 24, 2011 10:23:38 GMT -5 SnorlaxMonster said:

Also, is there another name for the glitch, which is more broad than "Celebi"? It's the same thing that bothers me about calling the Trainer-Fly glitch the "Mew" glitch.

I think we could just call it the bad clone glitch. What's complicated about using the name Trainer-Fly glitch is that you don't even have to use Fly to escape from the Trainer, because you can also use Teleport or Dig/Escape Rope (though I believe Poison doesn't work and it gets reserved for the next step). Just recently somebody called Vimgur found that you can also get a wild encounter and lose on the spot that a Trainer sees you, meaning you don't even need a Trainer to walk up to you.



A while ago, GARY 'M 9 suggested something like the name "escape glitch", after Paco showed us that if you run out of Safari Zone steps via glitch city glitch while being shown around Pewter City you can also force something similar.



Hope that helps, I don't know exactly how the bad clone glitch works either.

[SnorlaxMonster]

Jul 24, 2011 13:01:54 GMT -5 Torchickens said:

The characters by index number in RBY are the same as the ones in GSC. For reference, I'll link to the old Matthew Robinson's code archive, which our own codes archive credited. (see 'Name Digits' section). www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/pokemongscodes.txt

Thnks for that. Which makes me wonder where these moves are actually coming from. I messed up when I said none corresponded to legal characters though - Acid Armor corresponds to X, but I disregarded it because it was not in the players name, then forgot to mention it when I came to writing the post.

I think we could just call it the bad clone glitch.

I think this is a fairly good name, but my issue is that the glitch known as the "Celebi Egg glitch" also involves a bad clone. While I would call it the "Bad clone Egg glitch", I feel that this glitch should also have another word to distinguish it.

What's complicated about using the name Trainer-Fly glitch is that you don't even have to use Fly to escape from the Trainer, because you can also use Teleport or Dig/Escape Rope (though I believe Poison doesn't work and it gets reserved for the next step). Just recently somebody called Vimgur found that you can also get a wild encounter and lose on the spot that a Trainer sees you, meaning you don't even need a Trainer to walk up to you.



A while ago, GARY 'M 9 suggested something like the name "escape glitch", after Paco showed us that if you run out of Safari Zone steps via glitch city glitch while being shown around Pewter City you can also force something similar.

Well, I would personally prefer to call it the "Trainer flee glitch", as I once suggested on Bulbapedia, but I do like escape glitch as well. The reason I use Trainer-Fly glitch is that while I am aware that Teleport/Dig/Escape Rope work too, it is in common usage, and overtaking "Mew glitch" in usage too, whereas any more accurate names are not. If we could change what is commonly used to "Escape glitch" or "Trainer flee glitch", then I would love to call it that. Both names also still cover performing the glitch by encountering a wild Pokémon like that.

As for Paco's "Hooked Dragonite glitch" , I would consider that an exploit of a similar glitch rather than a different way of performing the same glitch.

[Paco81]

Jul 24, 2011 10:23:38 GMT -5 SnorlaxMonster said:

I was watching this video, and made several observations. For one, I noticed that every Pokémon deposited caused the bytes to shift up one, based on Bulbapedia's Pokémon data structure in Generation II.

What I was wondering if it was necessary to shift the bytes up four times by depositing four Pokémon. Would it not be possible to put the move to become the Pokémon's species in the first slot, and simply shift the bytes two times?

Hi SnorlaxMonster.

BrianMp16´s video shows the first procedure found for get to Celebi, time after was found a better way for perform the glitch with better result. If you understand the Spanish language, in Pokémon-Stats forum the Celebi Trick is a little better explained.


Original Celebi Trick Topic:

www.pokemon-stats.com/foros/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14334


Better method for get to Celebi in Gold&Silver:

www.pokemon-stats.com/foros/viewtopic.php?p=330913#p330913


Better method for get to Celebi in Crystal:

www.pokemon-stats.com/foros/viewtopic.php?p=275546#p275546


This post shows how was discovered step by step the first Celebi Trick:

www.pokemon-stats.com/foros/viewtopic.php?p=498981#p498981


If you not understand the Spanish language, after I will explain the Celebi Trick with my Bad english and will make Youtube videos, while these are the old videos about Celebi Trick.

Celebi Trick for Gold&Silver (Party Glitch method). Also works in Crystal, but in Cystal version is more recommendable use Box Glitch method.

www.megaupload.com/?d=9DO0RM7P

Celebi Trick for Crystal (Box Glitch method).

www.megaupload.com/?d=JSDFIJZE

[BigPapaT]

I was doing the Shiny Celebi glitch made by paco and decided I wanted more shiny pokemon from the older games without trading. I don't know if this is already known but when I was trying to use the shiny Gyarados to get a shiny mew using a Muk with the third move as acid armor. So when i got to my last two muks in the party i moved shiny gyarados and natu to the top of my party and proceeded with the glitch giving gyarados hm09 again and depositing the second to last muk. so i deposited the gyarados with the daycare couple and what i got back was a shiny Celebi again so i realized hm09 was item number 251 and attempted this same thing only instead of hm09 I used dragon scale witch is item 151 and sure enough i got a shiny mew after raising the gyarados with the daycare couple. so i did this a few more times using mystery berry to get mewtwo and masterball to get some original starters all shiny. the only problem with this glitch would be with the new legendaries that would require gyarados needing to hold hm01-07. any ideas on how i could get gyardos to be holding hm07 to get myself a shiny lugia?