Crystal Version - Beat the game with 2 badges
May 18, 2011 18:03:22 GMT -5
Post by RR on May 18, 2011 18:03:22 GMT -5
Copied from a post on TASVideos:
"Wersterlobe and I (RingRush) have been playing around with this game for the last few days, specifically with the bad clone glitch. We've found a lot of interesting things you can easily do by shuffling hex values around in your party - produce pokemon from items, key items from pokemon, attacks from experience, pokemon from attacks, etc. After finding that Pass and SS Ticket don't work before they are supposed to, we got a bit discouraged.
Then we stumbled upon a few new glitches...funny stuff like sliding around instead of walking or the champ music playing in the day care center. Eventually, we hit 2 jackpot glitches:
Map Distortion Glitch:
1. Get a level 0 bad clone (involves the classic cloning glitch, resetting at the exact right time...there is more on this on plenty of sites).
2. Put 6 pokemon into your party, including the bad clone.
3. Give the bad clone to the day care lady, and immediately take it back out.
4. Put the glitch pokemon that results in the fifth slot of your party.
5. Using the "Move Pokemon" option, add one pokemon from your PC to the top of your party. (It won't show it on the PC, but you should have 7 pokemon in your party)
6. Using the "Withdraw" option (and change box as needed), take out 36 more pokemon, so that your party has a total of 43 pokemon. (The glitch can actually be done w/ 31-32 total, but the next glitch can't).
7. Heal at a pokemon center.
8. When you want to distort the map, open your menu screen, select pokemon, then exit back to the game. When the map is distorted you can walk many places you wouldn't normally be able to.
Some uses of the Map Distortion Glitch that help in a run (all tested):
1. Board the magnet train before fighting Whitney (Kanto early).
2. Get past Snorlax without the EXPN card
3. Get past guards in front of Victory Road (Mt. Silver / Pokemon League with only 2 badges)
4. Avoid rival in Victory Road
Unfortunately, Mt. Silver early isn't as useful as it sounds: you still need to beat the Pokemon League for Red to appear. Furthermore, you can't glitch past the Elite 4 with the Map Distortion Glitch. However...
Instant Victory Glitch:
1. Have 43+ pokemon in your party (see above)
2. Start a battle against any wild pokemon or trainer
3. Check your pokemon, then cancel
4. Select fight
Upon selecting fight the battle will immeidately fade out, with no closing dialogue. This makes it so you can easily breeze through the elite 4, use the MDG to get back to Mt. Silver, and then instant-victory Red. The hall of fame takes a bit longer, but it doesn't crash with this many pokemon (and it only gives details for your top 6).
There is a big problem with crashing during battles or encounters, but a TAS should be able to work around this. I have managed to complete the game w/ 2 badges using save states, so this is more than just theoretically possible.
There are probably ways to further optomize the glitches. Using cloning (good or bad), we can dupe 5 pokemon at a time, so getting 43 won't take that long. This was all discovered without using any TAS tools besides savestates, so with more advanced RAM watches improvements should be found.
Any takers?
Edit2: Ignore the stuff in the old post about badges: we can just teleport back to the pokemon league after the credits, and from there head to Mt. Silver. Should save a lot of walking, and I'm almost certain the game is now completable in under an hour."
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We're still trying to fully understand and manipulate the glitch. Glancing briefly over this site, it seems like a good place to find help. I will be uploading videos over the next few days of some of the things you can do with this trick, I'll post them here if people are interested.
Random teaser images
"Wersterlobe and I (RingRush) have been playing around with this game for the last few days, specifically with the bad clone glitch. We've found a lot of interesting things you can easily do by shuffling hex values around in your party - produce pokemon from items, key items from pokemon, attacks from experience, pokemon from attacks, etc. After finding that Pass and SS Ticket don't work before they are supposed to, we got a bit discouraged.
Then we stumbled upon a few new glitches...funny stuff like sliding around instead of walking or the champ music playing in the day care center. Eventually, we hit 2 jackpot glitches:
Map Distortion Glitch:
1. Get a level 0 bad clone (involves the classic cloning glitch, resetting at the exact right time...there is more on this on plenty of sites).
2. Put 6 pokemon into your party, including the bad clone.
3. Give the bad clone to the day care lady, and immediately take it back out.
4. Put the glitch pokemon that results in the fifth slot of your party.
5. Using the "Move Pokemon" option, add one pokemon from your PC to the top of your party. (It won't show it on the PC, but you should have 7 pokemon in your party)
6. Using the "Withdraw" option (and change box as needed), take out 36 more pokemon, so that your party has a total of 43 pokemon. (The glitch can actually be done w/ 31-32 total, but the next glitch can't).
7. Heal at a pokemon center.
8. When you want to distort the map, open your menu screen, select pokemon, then exit back to the game. When the map is distorted you can walk many places you wouldn't normally be able to.
Some uses of the Map Distortion Glitch that help in a run (all tested):
1. Board the magnet train before fighting Whitney (Kanto early).
2. Get past Snorlax without the EXPN card
3. Get past guards in front of Victory Road (Mt. Silver / Pokemon League with only 2 badges)
4. Avoid rival in Victory Road
Unfortunately, Mt. Silver early isn't as useful as it sounds: you still need to beat the Pokemon League for Red to appear. Furthermore, you can't glitch past the Elite 4 with the Map Distortion Glitch. However...
Instant Victory Glitch:
1. Have 43+ pokemon in your party (see above)
2. Start a battle against any wild pokemon or trainer
3. Check your pokemon, then cancel
4. Select fight
Upon selecting fight the battle will immeidately fade out, with no closing dialogue. This makes it so you can easily breeze through the elite 4, use the MDG to get back to Mt. Silver, and then instant-victory Red. The hall of fame takes a bit longer, but it doesn't crash with this many pokemon (and it only gives details for your top 6).
There is a big problem with crashing during battles or encounters, but a TAS should be able to work around this. I have managed to complete the game w/ 2 badges using save states, so this is more than just theoretically possible.
There are probably ways to further optomize the glitches. Using cloning (good or bad), we can dupe 5 pokemon at a time, so getting 43 won't take that long. This was all discovered without using any TAS tools besides savestates, so with more advanced RAM watches improvements should be found.
Any takers?
Edit2: Ignore the stuff in the old post about badges: we can just teleport back to the pokemon league after the credits, and from there head to Mt. Silver. Should save a lot of walking, and I'm almost certain the game is now completable in under an hour."
---
We're still trying to fully understand and manipulate the glitch. Glancing briefly over this site, it seems like a good place to find help. I will be uploading videos over the next few days of some of the things you can do with this trick, I'll post them here if people are interested.
Random teaser images
